Sunday, February 17, 2013
Welsh Secretary still reaping the whirlwind
The Conservative Secretary of State for Wales, David Jones is trying to keep a low profile after telling a TV interviewer on Friday that his reason for voting against gay marriage was that "clearly" gay couples "cannot provide a warm and safe environment" in which to raise children. However, the storm continues to engulf him.
His clarification that: "Since same-sex partners could not biologically procreate children, the institution of marriage, in my opinion, should be reserved to opposite-sex partners" does not help. In fact it digs him into a even deeper hole.
As Barbara Ellen comments in today's Observer, he still does not seem quite sure what he is talking about. She points out that Mr. Jones says that he is not against civil partnerships, or gay couples adopting, and he has "people in my life who are important to me who are gay" and then asks: What kind of skewed mindset thinks gay couples should have civil partnerships and adoption rights, then balks at marriage? It's like a horse that's just won the "gay issues" Grand National, but then trips over a bucket.
She continues: There's no point rising to the "biological" bait. Some gay parents have biological children, while some heterosexual couples can't. Should the former be termed "honorary straights" and the latter reclassified as "gay" and barred from marriage? Parenting is not a slave to biology anyway. Many heterosexual families (adoptive, step, etc) aren't all biologically linked to each other – do we quote the Bible at them? As for the lack of "a warm and safe environment", does Jones think that gay people take their children clubbing or send them out, Fagin-style, to score amyl nitrate? Jones also ignores the countless cases of child abuse, neglect and murder in so-called righteous hetero-households.
The most damning criticism however is in Pink News who record how one of Wales' most senior politicians was pwned by an eight year old girl:
An eight-year-old girl has written to the Welsh Secretary David Jones to tell him that she has been brought up “perfectly well” by her two lesbian mothers.
His clarification that: "Since same-sex partners could not biologically procreate children, the institution of marriage, in my opinion, should be reserved to opposite-sex partners" does not help. In fact it digs him into a even deeper hole.
As Barbara Ellen comments in today's Observer, he still does not seem quite sure what he is talking about. She points out that Mr. Jones says that he is not against civil partnerships, or gay couples adopting, and he has "people in my life who are important to me who are gay" and then asks: What kind of skewed mindset thinks gay couples should have civil partnerships and adoption rights, then balks at marriage? It's like a horse that's just won the "gay issues" Grand National, but then trips over a bucket.
She continues: There's no point rising to the "biological" bait. Some gay parents have biological children, while some heterosexual couples can't. Should the former be termed "honorary straights" and the latter reclassified as "gay" and barred from marriage? Parenting is not a slave to biology anyway. Many heterosexual families (adoptive, step, etc) aren't all biologically linked to each other – do we quote the Bible at them? As for the lack of "a warm and safe environment", does Jones think that gay people take their children clubbing or send them out, Fagin-style, to score amyl nitrate? Jones also ignores the countless cases of child abuse, neglect and murder in so-called righteous hetero-households.
The most damning criticism however is in Pink News who record how one of Wales' most senior politicians was pwned by an eight year old girl:
An eight-year-old girl has written to the Welsh Secretary David Jones to tell him that she has been brought up “perfectly well” by her two lesbian mothers.
The letter was posted by one of the child’s mothers on Twitter:-
Maybe the Welsh Secretary needs to keep his head down for a little bit longer.Dear Mr Jones,I am writing to inform you that I don’t agree that children shouldn’t be brought up by lesbian or gay people. My name is Elizabeth and I am a child with lesbian parents. I have got a little sister called Pippa for short and I have got two mums, one is called Kate and the other is called Alison. I have been brought up perfectly well so I don’t see any point in you saying that. Me and some of my other friends agree that you can be brought up by anyone who will love you and care for you and make sure your [sic] happy. Please write back!Elizabeth
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Peter , I agree with you on 97% of stuff but this one not. DAvid Jones spoke what he felt and I take my hat to him.
The lasting emotional and psychological development of the child cannto be determined until years down the line. 'Two lesbian mothers'- what psychological framework does she see men? With fear, apprehension or unworthiness?
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The lasting emotional and psychological development of the child cannto be determined until years down the line. 'Two lesbian mothers'- what psychological framework does she see men? With fear, apprehension or unworthiness?
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