Sunday, September 06, 2009
Infamy, infamy, they've all got it in for me!
The Spin Doctor column in today's Wales on Sunday starts off with the lament that there really is nothing going on this week so, taking their clue I will shamelessly rip off one of his 'non-stories'.
It seems that a petition has been lodged on the Downing Street website which seeks to have Wales become a county of England. The petition which has eight signatures says:
We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to prosecute any person or organisation that promotes the breakup of the United Kingdom, including promoting independence for Wales or Scotland or reunification of Ireland, under the Treason Act 1531, which offence to be punishable by imprisonment for a minimum of 5 years.
The originator claims to be Dave Rees of True Wales and if you agree then you have until 21 April 2010 to sign it here, after which you will get a nice e-mail from the Prime Minister's office acknowledging your views and offering reasons why Gordon Brown is going to ignore you.
The rationale for this petition as spelt out on the website is interesting too:
The nationalist movements in Wales, Scotland and Northeren Ireland are fundamentally opposed to the constitutional status of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northeren Ireland. Their drive towards independence represents a direct attack on the stability and sovereignty of the state and their actions should be considered as acts of sedition, and should be prosecuted under the Treason Act 1531.
Having all your opponents arrested for treason is one way to win a referendum on enhancing the powers of the National Assembly for Wales. It is not very original though.
P.S. The petition calling on the Prime Minister to resign has stalled on 70,615 signatures, which is still the size of a small English constituency.
It seems that a petition has been lodged on the Downing Street website which seeks to have Wales become a county of England. The petition which has eight signatures says:
We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to prosecute any person or organisation that promotes the breakup of the United Kingdom, including promoting independence for Wales or Scotland or reunification of Ireland, under the Treason Act 1531, which offence to be punishable by imprisonment for a minimum of 5 years.
The originator claims to be Dave Rees of True Wales and if you agree then you have until 21 April 2010 to sign it here, after which you will get a nice e-mail from the Prime Minister's office acknowledging your views and offering reasons why Gordon Brown is going to ignore you.
The rationale for this petition as spelt out on the website is interesting too:
The nationalist movements in Wales, Scotland and Northeren Ireland are fundamentally opposed to the constitutional status of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northeren Ireland. Their drive towards independence represents a direct attack on the stability and sovereignty of the state and their actions should be considered as acts of sedition, and should be prosecuted under the Treason Act 1531.
Having all your opponents arrested for treason is one way to win a referendum on enhancing the powers of the National Assembly for Wales. It is not very original though.
P.S. The petition calling on the Prime Minister to resign has stalled on 70,615 signatures, which is still the size of a small English constituency.
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Acts of Treason, interesting!!!
I'm still trying to figure out why Saunders Lewis and his butties weren't tried for Treason when the committed arson on the Gunnery Range in Penyberth in 1936. Germany was re-arming, the Spanish Civil War had just started, fascism was spreading across Europe, and a major conflict involving the UK was very much on the cards.
I'm still trying to figure out why Saunders Lewis and his butties weren't tried for Treason when the committed arson on the Gunnery Range in Penyberth in 1936. Germany was re-arming, the Spanish Civil War had just started, fascism was spreading across Europe, and a major conflict involving the UK was very much on the cards.
# posted by 
: 11:10 AM
: 11:10 AM
I don't think Dave made that petition. Reasons:
It was originally posted to the True Wales Facebook group by Dave Rees. But that would confirm it? Well no. The Dave Rees account that posted it used a stock image of Rees from the Caerphilly Council website. And the birthday on the account is wrong.
Infact Dave HAS got a facebook account, using personal images and correct information. But that account isn't a member of the True Wales facebook group, and wasn't used to post the petition to the group.
So two scenarios: either a) he has two accounts, one personal, one political (and deliberately Obfuscated), and doesn't mix the two or b) someone set up an account as Dave Rees, and subsequently posted the petition on number 10.
Now, don't get me wrong, if Rees did make that petition I'd like him hanging from the gates of Cardiff Castle. BUT I dislike subterfuge and blackops: if it's a put-up job then that's wrong.
It was originally posted to the True Wales Facebook group by Dave Rees. But that would confirm it? Well no. The Dave Rees account that posted it used a stock image of Rees from the Caerphilly Council website. And the birthday on the account is wrong.
Infact Dave HAS got a facebook account, using personal images and correct information. But that account isn't a member of the True Wales facebook group, and wasn't used to post the petition to the group.
So two scenarios: either a) he has two accounts, one personal, one political (and deliberately Obfuscated), and doesn't mix the two or b) someone set up an account as Dave Rees, and subsequently posted the petition on number 10.
Now, don't get me wrong, if Rees did make that petition I'd like him hanging from the gates of Cardiff Castle. BUT I dislike subterfuge and blackops: if it's a put-up job then that's wrong.
"I'm still trying to figure out why Saunders Lewis and his butties weren't tried for Treason when the committed arson on the Gunnery Range in Penyberth in 1936."
Not much to do round your neck of the woods is there?
Not much to do round your neck of the woods is there?
# posted by : 11:11 PM
: 11:11 PM
"treason is the crime that covers some of the more serious acts of disloyalty to one's sovereign or nation."
so in reality, people who OPPOSE devolution are guilty of treason to their nation (ie Wales). Semantics.
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so in reality, people who OPPOSE devolution are guilty of treason to their nation (ie Wales). Semantics.
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